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  • Viscount Cardwell
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    I'd like all those posters that denigrate Josh Mahoney, to take note that this man knows what he's doing.

  • Axis of Bob
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    Hmmm, maybe not. Mahoney was talking about their intention to have those picks because of the lack of exposed form making it harder to assess a lot of the talent, especially Victorian talent. As such

  • It totally defies logic to suggest that the 2021 draft pool is known to be better than 2020 draft pool. If 2020 players are under-exposed because of Covid then that goes double for 2021 candidate

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Not sure what we're up to but I like it. Don't think we're done yet either, we now have 18, 19 and 28 and 50 in this years draft and we're only missing a first round from next year which we can always trade back into.

The good thing about getting this done early is we have more control over our destiny. For an example, if we waited Essendon might have tempted Brisbane with either pick 7 or 8 and the split assets might have been used elsewhere to get other deals done. Now clubs can come to us to negotiate.

Somewhat left field suggestion, Pick 18 for Treloar with Pies paying 300K per annum. 


Keen to pickup two obscure players originally predicted to go in the mid 30's in the draft...

In all seriousness...loving it 

10 minutes ago, Viscount Cardwell said:

I'd like all those posters that denigrate Josh Mahoney, to take note that this man knows what he's doing.

As most of us said at the time...

1 minute ago, Viscount Cardwell said:

I'd like all those posters that denigrate Josh Mahoney, to take note that this man knows what he's doing.

Totally agree. Let all the loudmouth clubs like Carlton, Bombers and Saints strut around being linked to everybody, whilst we just quietly go about some very good business.

I thought they didn't rate this years draft?

Just now, Viscount Cardwell said:

I'd like all those posters that denigrate Josh Mahoney, to take note that this man knows what he's doing.

 

1. Gambling on good ladder finishes that seem unlikely
2. Giving away good 2nd round picks for short term wins - Frost, Hibberd, Melksham, the Howe trade to get the Weid pick
3. Develop a list heavy on top end talent but with huge holes

4. Profit?

 


3 minutes ago, Viscount Cardwell said:

I'd like all those posters that denigrate Josh Mahoney, to take note that this man knows what he's doing.

what are we aiming for any body know?

3 minutes ago, A F said:

As most of us said at the time...

What is he doing

I thought it was a poor draft and we need ready to go players 

I admit I am confused

2 minutes ago, TheoX said:

I thought they didn't rate this years draft?

Reckon covid has really changed things where there will a strong deviation to where clubs rate players 6 through 20. So they may have thought players they previous rated in the top 10 may drift out due to the lack of exposure. My theory anyway. 

Just now, TheoX said:

I thought they didn't rate this years draft?

Half the draft pool hasn't played and another half is tied up with other clubs so how could you rate this draft?

At the same time - we're in a window right now with Gawn, May, Oliver, Petracca - to really win some games. We can't be sitting back waiting.

And the available trade talent is mostly poor or overpriced. 

Another Jackson, Pickett, Rivers draft with some short term results and a pathway to strong medium term success for both the young guys and the side is our best way out of this mess.

So it appears we're diving in to the deep end of the most compromised draft in recent history. Over to you Jason Taylor.


Taylor clearly likes 1 or 2 players that are likely to go early. Wouldn't be surprised if McCrae has been thrown out there as a bit of a bluff and maybe we're looking at someone like Perkins? Pure speculation on my part, but interesting times ahead.

we need the Dunkley deal to go through. if that happens 18 and 19 are worth more than any one of 6, 7 or 8

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I am dying to see what other tricks Josh has up his sleeve.????

2 minutes ago, ArtificialWisdom said:

we need the Dunkley deal to go through. if that happens 18 and 19 are worth more than any one of 6, 7 or 8

no club is stupid enough to use the AFL Draft Value Index as a trade guide.

Isn’t 2021 meant to be the draft loaded up with talent? Interesting choice to be giving away our first rounder but the club has earned the faith on these matters. Perhaps we will trade our way back in.


8 minutes ago, A F said:

Taylor clearly likes 1 or 2 players that are likely to go early. Wouldn't be surprised if McCrae has been thrown out there as a bit of a bluff and maybe we're looking at someone like Perkins? Pure speculation on my part, but interesting times ahead.

Yep. I found it odd that we had leaked.

Or... we have positioned ourselves to trade up on draft night

21 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

 

1. Gambling on good ladder finishes that seem unlikely
2. Giving away good 2nd round picks for short term wins - Frost, Hibberd, Melksham, the Howe trade to get the Weid pick
3. Develop a list heavy on top end talent but with huge holes

4. Profit?

 

Nice South Park reference!

2 minutes ago, P-man said:

Isn’t 2021 meant to be the draft loaded up with talent? Interesting choice to be giving away our first rounder but the club has earned the faith on these matters. Perhaps we will trade our way back in.

Non-issue, we'll trade out our future 2022 pick to get back in

4 minutes ago, goodoil said:

no club is stupid enough to use the AFL Draft Value Index as a trade guide.

It matters if the club involved needs to use points.

4 minutes ago, goodoil said:

no club is stupid enough to use the AFL Draft Value Index as a trade guide.

Except for one who needs to match a bid for a top 5 pick. 


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